I’ve been a pool builder all my life and I use your magazine as a technical source and I really enjoy it. I found a conflict: In Shotcrete Summer 2004, page 30, the answer to the second question suggests the use of 8% as batched air content with max sized coarse aggregate of 3/8 inch. The conflict I have is that a) won’t 8% as batched drop to 1-2% after wet gunning? and b) previous articles suggested the use of 15-22% air as batched to help get it through the hose and to achieve 8% in place. Can you clarify?

For over 30 years in Canada we have been designing wet mix shotcrete for exterior exposure (rock-slope stabilization, tunnel portals, canals and beams, infrastructure rehabilitation, etc.) to have air content at the point of discharge into the pump to be in the 7 to 10% range. Pumping and the impact on shooting reduces the air content in the in-place shotcrete by about half. i.e. we find the in-place air content in the shotcrete to consistently be in about the 3.5 to 5.0% range. (Only about 1 to 2% air content is lost in pumping; the rest is lost in impacting on the receiving surface).

The air content is measured either by digging out the in-place shotcrete (or dig it out of a shot test panel) and reconsolidating it in the base of the air pressure meter in the ASTM C231 test and conducting the test. Alternatively the shotcrete can be shot directly into the air pressure meter base. It provides virtually the same value as obtained with dug-out shotcrete (as described above), provided the nozzle is held perpendicular to the air pressure meter base, and at the appropriate distance for proper consolidation of the shotcrete.

Testing on numerous projects has demonstrated that shotcrete with 3.5 to 5% in-place air content has a good air voids system ( air content, spacing factor and specific surface), when analyzed in the ASTM C457 test. Such shotcrete has been demonstrated to have good freeze/thaw durability in the ASTM C666 test and deicing salt scaling resistance in the ASTM C672 test. More importantly, feedback from the field demonstrates that such air entrained shotcrete with many thousands of cycles of freezing and thawing in the field over several decades display good durability. There are many research and case-history examples in the published shotcrete literature to support these observations. (See references 1 and 2 below)

With respect to the use of very high air contents at the pump (15-22%), this has been more of a research initiative, used on only a few projects in Quebec, and is not common practice, nor in this writer’s opinion, necessary.

There is another benefit which accrues from the use of air entraining admixtures to get 7-10% air content in the shotcrete discharged at the pump. As any concrete user knows, as the air content increases, the slump goes up. For shotcrete mixes (which have high cementitious contents and low rock contents compared to concretes) this makes the mix easier to pump and shoot. Thus it is common to shoot air entrained wet mix shotcrete at 100 to125mm (4 to 5 inch) slump. On impacting on the receiving surface, as the air content is reduced by about half, the slump of the in-place shotcrete is also instantaneously reduced by about half. (This can be demonstrated by digging the shotcrete out of the in-place material, or a test panel and conducting a slump test on it). We refer to this phenomenon as the “slump killing “process and have used it to advantage on many shotcrete projects. With a good air entrained shotcrete mix design (particularly when silica fume is used) we commonly shoot vertical sections as much as 500mm (20in) thick at 100 to 125mm (4 to 5 inch) slump in a single pass with no problems of sagging or sloughing (fall-out), without having to resort to the use of accelerators.

Finally, there are a few situations where 7 to 10% air content in the shotcrete at discharge into the pump may not work. These are situations where excess air content reduction could occur during shotcrete conveyance, such as dropping shotcrete down a pipe from the surface in an underground mine and catching it in a kettle or remixer unit. In this case, air, if needed, is best added underground in the remixer. Also, pumping shotcrete long distances (particularly pumping shotcrete downhill) may result in excessive loss of air content in the line, which could cause a slump reduction in the line and possible pumping problems. Other than for situations such as these, we always use 7-10% air content in the shotcrete at the point of discharge into the pump (even if it is not needed for frost resistance reasons) because of its enhanced pumping and “slump killer effects”.

Reference 1: Morgan, D.R., “Freeze-Thaw Durability of Shotcrete”, Concrete International, Vol. 11, No. 8, August, 1989, pp 86-93

Reference 2: Morgan, D.R., Kirkness, A.J., McAskill, N. and Duke, N., “Freeze-Thaw Durability of Wet-Mix and Dry-Mix Shotcretes with Silica Fume and Steel Fibers”, ASTM Cement, Concrete Aggregates, Vol. 10, No. 2, Winter 1988, pp 96-102.

Our development has 8 recirculating water ponds of various sizes. All are vinyl liner under concrete construction. Some ponds have developed leaks due to cracking of the concrete. Will shotcrete provide an adequate seal to stop the leaks for an appreciable time?

When trying to find a contractor in your area, please visit the Corporate Member page of this website. When constructing water ponds, the liner is always under the concrete just in case the concrete cracks not on top. Master Builders makes a product called Master Seal 345 which is designed to waterproof the concrete before the shotcrete is placed. Using a macro synthetic fiber for strength, flexural and to control shrinkage cracking will help. It comes down to proper prep work prior to placement and curing of the concrete (7 days of water) to control cracks. Bentonite shotcrete could be a possibility or perhaps plastic shotcrete (cement and bentonite shotcrete).

I have a special request for a shotcrete mix design. My company has been using shotcrete for about three years, here in Alaska. I have recently had a request to shotcrete a 60’x50′ duck pond to make it waterproof. The problems I am running into are that moose keep walking into the pond, and the pond is on the side of a hill with built up edges around the outside. The mix design I am looking for needs to have an epoxy or some kind of adhesive to help stop the water from running out the cracks. Last, are there any fabric or plastic materials that I could lay down and spray the wet shotcrete on to put on the sides of the pond?

This inquiry involves a lot more than just mix design. First, additives to the mix by themselves will not keep the shotcrete from cracking. To minimize leakage for the proposed application, he will have to use either a waterproofing membrane on top of the shotcrete, or plaster like would be used on a swimming pool. Putting a membrane behind the shotcrete would only serve to keep ground water from entering the pond through the back side. The other aspect to be addressed is the fact that all concrete shrinks, and that is what causes the cracks. So anything that can be done to minimize shrinkage should help. To name just a few items: avoid shooting on a windy and or low humidity day; use aggregates in the mix that have a good record regarding shrinkage; avoid excessive cement content in the mix; use reinforcing steel (mesh or rebar); synthetic fibers help reduce early plastic shrinkage; proper curing is absolutely essential!

We are having a pool built with shotcrete. The pool company has asked us to change the contract to allow them to use the wet method instead of the dry method of shotcrete. I have read through your website and found it helpful in understanding the difference between the two, but I would like to know if one is better or more sound than the other.

Pools are built with both processes. Some find it easier to shoot pools with the wet method. But, when properly done, there should be no difference in performance between wet and dry process shotcrete. Depending on the complexity of the pool, the wet method placement can be faster than the dry method. It comes down to the experience of the contractor and their crews, for a good quality placed pool shell. The nozzleman plays a key role in the placement of well placed shotcrete in both methods. The geographical area may determine the economics of which method is used. Curing of the in-place concrete shell is the same for both processes (water curing for 7 days). Wet concrete has a 90 minute window from the time it is batched at the plant until it placed. Temperature of the material and the air temperature can increase or decrease the set times of the concrete. Typically Ready-Mix companies hold back 10-15 gallons of water in the mix so that the contractor can adjust the slump of the concrete on site. Adding 1 gallon of water over the design mix (amount of gallons of water per yard of concrete) can decrease the strength of the concrete by 200psi.

If you have additional concerns, the following questions should be asked:

  • Does the contractor have a good track record of shooting pools with the wet method?
  • How many pools have they completed with the wet method?
  • Can you provide a list of past completed jobs?
  • How do they plan to incorporate the trimmed concrete into the shell? (The rebound and the trimmed concrete play a key role in the final quality of the pool shell.)
  • What concrete mix design do they plan to use?

Can you provide any information on insulating gunite in spa installations?

There are two ways to insulate the outside of concrete spas. The first way is to shotcrete the spa and then glue Styrofoam to the outside of the concrete shell or to spray the insulated foam to the outside surface. The second way is to use the ICF (insulated concrete form). You would only have to use one side of this form system. This system would act as the outside form so that the shotcrete could bond to the foam. This type of system has foam insulation thicknesses from 1 to 4 inches thick. Yes, it can be fitted to form circles. Each ICF system is different, so some research would be needed to see which system would work the best. Since most spas are formed up before they are shot, the ICF system would serve two purposes: forming and insulation in one step.

I am a general contractor who hired a company to shotcrete a new swimming pool. They began on Friday, a very hot day, and they were placing concrete very slowly (27 yards in 4 hours). Their pump broke down and they were unable to complete the job that day so they returned on Monday. My Question is about the “cold joint” between the work on Friday and the work on Monday. What is your opinion of this situation?

On large swimming pools, it is not unusual to have joints that are left over a weekend or longer. The key is the means by which the joint is dealt with. As with any concrete joint, the surface needs to be clean and free of laitance or other contamination. This can be accomplished by cleaning the joint while it is green on the first day or by cleaning with waterblasting, sandblasting, or wire brushing after the surface has gotten hard. As long as the joint is clean, all gloss has been removed, and the joint is dampened the structure should not be impacted by the joint. Also, 27 cubic yards in 4 hours is not necessarily slow production. Depending upon the circumstances, I would think that 27 cy in 4 hours was quite productive.